glock 36 gen 3 vs gen 4

Instead of the snap up you’re used to, the recoil feels much more like it’s directed straight back with far, far less muzzle rise. Just a few weeks ago, my FFL called me and told me that he had been hearing of some other issues similiar to what I first experienced. I am interested in seeing people's opinion of Gen 3 vs Gen 4 for competition. That’s worth considering since my GEN 3 wears the stock connector and the GEN 4 wears a Ghost 4.5 connector…and is still heavier. We can only speculate on the reasons. Buffalochip1. What makes different?For one thing, it's the journalistic and editorial content we provide, but also the value-added services we offer. And, that is exactly what happened, casting a doubt over the reliability of the new handguns, at least until Glock made the decision to introduce a specific recoil spring dimensioned for the 9mm caliber and offering a free replacement program for all the current owners of 9mm Gen 4 pistols. Problems heretofore undiscovered are turning up right after the 2K mark. And yes there are Gen 4 Glocks out there with zero problems. It’s a great article, thanks. to me. Not the typical gun owner who shoots a box here and there and declares his gun reliable. blog before but after checking through some of the post I realized it’s new Read on to discover how you can still …. MarkyyDee, Jan 31, 2017. Does that sound like an PROBLEM is occuring?? The answer is pretty much:  That depends on you. Together with the secure-grip design and minimal trigger-to-grip distance this makes handling the pistol very simple. The GEN 4 does offer some nice bells and whistles, but it really doesn’t warrant a move from the GEN 3 if that’s already working for you, IMO. I bought one, won one. Communication via more effective channels:In printed media, information generally flows just one way. Surely not a 3.5lb right? If you like the Gen 3 grip size already, then it’s pretty ho-hum. Whatever it is, I am sure I can find fault with their guns too! I just purchased aGlock 19 like the grips added the med back strap very good.negative comments: I don’t like the rear sight. The Glock 36 solves the problem, offering .45 ACP chambering in a small, concealable, reliable package. Each still performed perfectly and had little appreciable accuracy change at combat distances (fifteen to 50 feet). I have not been a fan of backstraps. BTW I ain’t Limp wristing it either. In the early 90’s when the Polymer Framed Glocks took off, I attended a Simunition Instructors Course (with my issued Sig P226 and also a M9). I have my mind set on buying a Glock 34 for USPSA however I cannot decide on whether or not to get the Gen 3 or 4. Rob, Oh well, if Glock ever see the light I’ll buy a couple more Glocks, other wise I’m happy with my 1911s. I don’t pretend to be a Glock expert but I bought a new Gen3 M 26 a few years ago and it came with the Gen 4 recoil rod. The Gen 4’s that I have all are shooting as all GLOCKs have out of the box with one exception.Less felt recoil and better target acquisition. My wife and I shoot nearly every weekend at our home hanging metal range with .45 or 9mm and target range with .22 (when it is available in bulk supply). I taught combat shooting for a few years and quite simply nothing was easier to teach with than a Glock. It began to stove pipe resulting in a double feed. (I’m thinking especially of the M22). Take the same 9mm round you shot in the Glock and shoot it out of a revolver like a Ruger Blackhawk with a 9mm cylinder or a Taurus 905. I find the gen-4 not as cozy Probably in my head. Why I purchased a Gen. 3 Model 21 and why. It was a gen 3 and marked “Glock USA”. Not to light, not to heavy, just right. Glock is known for Utility and they just added to it with the new gunmetal gray Tennifer finish. It is not only due to having a “double stack Mag”. Don’t mean to ramble but both of these points bring us to the GEN 4. Folks who are putting thousands of rounds through Glocks in short periods of time. / is fascinating, multi-facetted, informative and explanatory at the same time. Je suis l'heureux propriétaire d'un Glock 17 gen 4 étant gaucher c'est un plaisir d'avoir une arme à sa main. Then due the same with the Gen 3, at the same time. You have to push a role pin out just to change the inserts, thats no changing at range between shooters. Maybe this causes “limp wrist” problems. Serrations on the slide return to the straight design. Then Glock updated the RTF2 to RTF3. But for me, I think the main reason GLOCK came out with the Gen. 4 and the “changes” or “differences” it has compared to the Gen. 3’s is and was to… 1.) connector on the old Glock 19 is not reliable and should be replaced with an 8 lb unit. On two occassions I fired a Glock (Gen1 and Gen2) over 10,000 rounds without cleaning it. If it is one of the older slick griped ones put a Glock sock on it if you want finger groves, but it does NOT matter for combat purposes. Why not making available the new and better spring(s) of the generation 4 pistol to be installed on the gen 3? According to Glock, the new finish is slightly harder. I shoot mostly .45 ACP, but also regularly shoot one of my wife’s Sigs in 9mm. The 1911 is the king in some very specific and small demographics, but when is the last time you saw a 1911 on a LEO’s hip? These are the “usual” weapons I would compare a Glock with if I bought one. Share your GLOCK experience on +++++ UPDATE +++++, Glock 17 Gen5 for France: the "Pistolet Automatique de Nouvelle Génération" (PANG). As for the different grip size i feel Glock failed there. Gen 4 Glock 19. i hate reading these sometimes. I can’t argue that there was nothing to be done with the magazine release as lefties were stuck with using their trigger finger, or some other such adaptation that is less than ideal. I can see and feel the difference when compared to my old GEN2. Very slippery. It’s just a bit harder to clean afterwards, DUH ! This is due mainly to its significantly slimmer frame, since in the subcompact pistol segment, the width of the gun also plays a significant role. Glock has corrected this with springs specific to the 9mm guns. What it looks like, however, is far less important than what it does. If you want a less snappy firring pistol buy a CROSSMEN BB GUN! Personnally, I liked the RTF 2 finish. Of course many will say, “Well how much training do you think the average police officer gets?” And they unfortunately are correct, but that is beside the point. (Some lady cop from Springfield MO had the most worn glock I ever saw, I swear she must have fired that thing two or three hundred thousand rounds). What a difference. I do like the new GEN 4 recoil system. Again, most of these problems were promptly solved adopting a new Ejector, shorter and with a more slanted profile, that is included in every new Gen 4 pistol and that seems to have brought back the Glock pistol to the almost legendary levels of reliability that were at the base of the gun’s success. In any case, all of my Glocks wear the Hogue Handall grip sleeve. We found we had to re-spring the entire gun and rebuild all the magazines to get the system to work reliably. This “First Generation” was available for a short number of years, but is still today featured in many American movies and television series.. If you never liked the snappy recoil of the .40, needed to adapt the gun to fit your hand because it just wasn’t quite right, or were a lefty who hated using the standard Glock mag release, then this gun can address your concerns solidly. lol. The P226 has a much nicer trigger and a more comfortable grip and has not been prone to limp wrist FTE. its not the gun your just a poor shot,because i shoot the g42 at 20 feet, i shot 50 rounds,and they were all in the black 6 in circle and thats a 3.25 in barrel,it the shooter not the gun. When talking custom vs stock guns, keep your sights on the same target. The recoil system itself only needs to be replaced once every 5,000 rounds according to Glock. still not sure about the G4, needs to be on market longer as it does seem to have issues. >>> at least as far as holster fit) I remember first time field stripping the 45 XD and the huge guide rod spring was impressive. I deal with the one of the bigest p olice distributers in tennessee.I get feal good deals on 22,s especially.All generations,they are police trade ins that most time only have small holster wear.Give me a call,scott-865/748/4601. Our basic philosophy is to report in a balanced, impartial and journalistic neutral manner so that our users and partners in the industry can track current developments in a timely manner and better understand their impact. 30274 may solve these malfunctions; additionally, an older extractor may be used to improve overall ejection. I just bought my 1st Glock, a Gen 4 .40 model 23. The serial number on the frame was etched on a metal plate molded in the polymer frame (a few of the first Second Generation pistols do not have the metal serial number plate). The latest fix, that seems to work, the 04-1, is going in to new guns, hot off the press, so to speak. OK, if you see anything about this new Generation 4 that is a dramatic change, it’s the new recoil system. Glock recall on recoil springs. Since its introduction, the Glock pistol also featured a series of improvements, and while most may seem like smaller adjustments, many other are quite substantial, both to the frame and to the pistol’s internal mechanism, which makes it possible to talk about "generations". The new Dual Recoil Spring assembly absorbs better the harsh initial spike and generally higher energies of the .40 Smith & Wesson… but it did not work as well for the 9mm, because the first lots of pistols again shared the same recoil spring. It also makes for a gun that isn’t nearly as battered from recoil, and thus should have a longer service life. Note the composite, 'captive' spring assembly, 9mm Glock 17 Gen 3 semi-automatic pistol: Right side view, 9mm Glock 17 Gen 3 semi-automatic pistol: Left side view. MarkyyDee, Jan 31, 2017. GLOCK 36 Six rounds of 45 Auto in a package that fits into the hands of any user. A few might be user error, but were talking hundreds it not thousands of go backs to GLOCK. With most firearms manufacturers when they make changes people will often come out and gripe and carry on about such trivial things. The point I’m making is that this new Gen4 seems to have a new margin of error that the Gen2 just didn’t have. Shoot them against a .45 ACP loaded with 230 gr. Hence, the GLOCK 36 frame has a width of 28 millimeters and the GLOCK … The Gen 4’s are Tennifer with a zinc phosphate top coat. Then address them and came up with the M&P line. I still have a NIB Gen 3 G19 with Gills and a NIB Gen 3 G17 Anniversary Edition one of 2006 signed by Gaston Glock. Regardless, Glock seems to have answered it’s critics with the Gen 4. The one incorporation that I thought really indicated Glock was adapting to a changing landscape in the handgun market, was the MBS – Multiple Back Strap system. Neither SIG nor Glock makes a grip that works as well as the 1911 in my hands. This isn’t about your venerable Colt Series 70 Gold Cup (Semi Custom gun)! This is the top Google search result for “Glock Gen 3 vs Gen 4” and I was hoping for some insights on the new safety system. The difference in the two finishes Gen 3 vs Gen 4 is the top coat ! They are fun to shoot and works as advertised. I can attest to this because my Gen 3 Glocks from racking the slide, the black oxide wears off a bit on the chamber end of the barrel where the ejection port is at. I’d love to get a Glock, but they just don’t fit. However, a Gen 4 connector can be used in a Gen 3, although it will alter significantly weight of pull, Ejector: Gen 4 pistols use new designs (Part no. The Gen 4’s magazine release is much larger, and fully reversible to adapt to you lefties out there. Recently my girlfriend was using it to range qualify for a carry permit when the gun failed. (Trivia: Can anyone tell me why Gen 1 and some early Gen 2’s did not have drop-fee Magazines??) I like it but it easily has the worse trigger among my Glocks. That’s why Hardcast isn’t like the regular, soft lead used in common bullets. Not sure what the cost difference is. And yeah the 40s snappy, its a freakin 10mm short!! agreed, the ridges in the grip are too small for me and do not fit my hand, mine also seems to shoot left and with practice ammo it is not consistent shoots much better with duty ammo. Some like it, some, well let’s just say aren’t jumping for joy. Share . And by the way that is using everything from the cheapest underpowered ammunition to using hot sub-gun ammo. I belive Glock has modified their finish for all new guns produced be they Gen 3 or 4. ne you get, you can’t go wrong they are both good and will serve you for the rest of your life if taken care of properly. Glocks are awesome for digesting +P and +P+ loads, hollowpoints, FMJ’s, Flat point FMJ’s and all. Our Services:Our international platform in four languages with corresponding social media appearances on Facebook, Instagram and YouTube reaches an active, interested and international audience of milions – every month! I think the 9mm G4 may be a bit of a problem child. I was hearing a lot of chatter from agencies looking at guns like the M&P to replace their “one size fits all” Glocks, and civilians who weren’t already locked into the Glock were flocking to look at the M&P. It’s all about balance and pressure tolerance. The Gen 4 also introduces a new and redesigned ambidextrous magazine release system, that is now extremely reliable; of course, backwards compatibility is also lost, and although Gen 4 magazines can be used in previous generation pistols, the opposite is impossible. This was a direct challenge to Glock’s commanding dominance in the law enforcement and civilian market. The main question is: which GLOCK is the right pistol for your needs? Personally, I think it’s all in one’s head. Thanks all for the numerous and well thought out replies. I searched this page for “safety” and found nothing. I could have sworn I’ve been to this I bought my butt ugly Glock because of their history of reliability. Print media, websites, social media, YouTube – all of it coordinated internationally and from a single source. Click here for more information on the topics: The international editorial team of, New Gen5 GLOCK models: update of the GLOCK 22, 23 and 27 – The fifth generation and the role of the .40 S&W caliber, Brand new: GLOCK 43X MOS and GLOCK 48 MOS – Factory available with Shield Sights RMSc red dot sights, Where it all began: GLOCK and Lipsey’s introduce the Gen 1 “Pistole 80”, Breaking news: GLOCK introduces Optic Ready Slimline models G43X and G48, How to choose the right GLOCK pistol – The new 2020 Buyer's Guide, GLOCK Experience Partner Program – Test all models at your dealer's shop and share your GLOCK experience for our competition where you can win a G44, Win a GLOCK 44! I say let Cali Drop into the sea where they all belong!! SOCOM barely even uses them anymore. Sure enough, Glock responded to this with the MBS. A 40 may generate more recoil energy than a 9, but the recoil impulse is slower, due to the lower velocity of the round. Whether firing a 17, 19, 22, 23, or my larger models 20 and 21 they worked perfectly and though the big ones felt different they worked perfectly when running rapid fire timed drills. Second, there is the problem with specific States, such as California, that allow only handguns that have been certified for sale by an official authority - in California’s case, by the Department of Justice - and certification takes quite a long time: as of summer of 2014, no Gen 4 Glock handguns have been approved for sale in California. From my limited experience with my buddy’s G-19 G4 the thing shoots left and FTF’s an awful lot. I think the new recoil assembly is a solution in search of a problem. no frills just reliable. 0, thats right, this is like a car dealer doing a Consumors Report. I wonder if Glock can make their guns slimmer? Glock, as usual, blamed the ammunition, the shooter, limp wristing/the hat you wore!! I don’t think the new finish is as elegant as the Gen 3 finish. David Wright US ARMY RANGERS 11th BRAVO, Thank for the honesty SGT. So much so that even I started feeling it after a full day of shooting. In many ways, it’… Some retailers are swiping a mag out of the box and selling it with only two mags. Comon really?? It’s been over 10 years since I bought my 1st gen Glock G36 Slimline because at the time it was the smallest .45ACP I could find. Once the extractor was broken in,perfection. Matter of fact, the previous models G17 e G23 were essentially the same gun, but with a different barrel and slight modifications to the breech face of the slide to accommodate the larger cartridge. Whichever Glock you pick, enjoy it ! They need to follow what the other gun manufacters are doing. I have found out you cant. Are the SF magazines compatible with older larger-frame .45’s? she enjoys her 9mm, so no worries there. 40 dollars – FL to Georgia ) this new Generation 4 pistol to be replaced once 5,000. 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